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Post by paranoia on Feb 26, 2013 8:04:52 GMT -8
SP's last post made me cringe a bit. "Just because he didn't kill us when he visited us means he must be telling the truth!"
I just... wow.
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Post by paranoia on Feb 26, 2013 8:06:01 GMT -8
Huh. Hey Pleonast, do I count as recruited for the purposes of this game?
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Post by Guiri on Feb 26, 2013 8:06:59 GMT -8
You can't win with us or help us win...
Anyway, there is no recruitment in this game, it's all a red herring...
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Post by paranoia on Feb 26, 2013 8:08:15 GMT -8
Ah.
I'd suppose I *could* vote for tiebreaking purposes, but that would be silly since you all would outvote me anyway.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 26, 2013 9:21:14 GMT -8
Huh. Hey Pleonast, do I count as recruited for the purposes of this game?No. You win or lose with all the other non-Devils. I'd suppose I *could* vote for tiebreaking purposes, but that would be silly since you all would outvote me anyway. Now they would, but at some point you non-Devils may outnumber them here.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 26, 2013 9:30:54 GMT -8
To comment about win conditions: Obviously, if you manage to claim 14 souls, you win. Once you've lost 8, you can't satisfy that one (and don't forget the Innocent, the one soul you can never claim). If 15 souls get to Heaven, you're left with one option. If there's not enough souls left to satisfy the one-per-Devil option, then it's game over.
Otherwise, as long as players are being lynched (and there will always be a lynch unless No Lynch wins the count), the game will continue. Fear of recruitment might keep things going longer than usual. If the living players show the intent to never lynch again, the game will keep going as long as non-Devils are in Purgatory, and then end once that empties.
Could be a long game, but the cycles are short.
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Post by paranoia on Feb 26, 2013 9:39:19 GMT -8
Wouldn't the last one be out of reach if all the devils are dead?
As obviously the last christian/pagan/heretic won't kill themselves.
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Post by Pleonast on Feb 26, 2013 10:00:22 GMT -8
Wouldn't the last one be out of reach if all the devils are dead? As obviously the last christian/pagan/heretic won't kill themselves. Yes. Although I shouldn't forget that some dead Devils can still with their bonus powers.
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Post by reaper on Feb 26, 2013 13:59:47 GMT -8
dead devil can't to the night kill btw
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Post by ashtaroth on Feb 26, 2013 19:22:38 GMT -8
I need to prepare a fake claim, but I really have no idea what to claim? I think town redirector is a bit off.
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Post by ashtaroth on Feb 26, 2013 19:45:37 GMT -8
I have no idea why we can't kill anything, but I know that ryjaes power is ruining us and we have no way of stopping him. If we had an unblockable kill, it should be used on him on a Day where he has targetted a town player.
The only way I can see us winning is to attempt to claim a soul even, but even that seems somewhat impossible. Given that we have a 1/7 change of guessing correctly and sins are few and far between, and that we can't seem to kill, this game seems very scewed towards town until I am missing something. Of course, to town the game seems harder because they keep lynching their own, but they have no idea how well they are doing game wise.
In any other game, we would be in a good position now.
Also, Texcat is coming up with some mighty annoying votes at the moment.
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Post by ashtaroth on Feb 26, 2013 19:55:49 GMT -8
Can someone please check this PM - it is the best I could do?
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Post by Mahaloth on Feb 26, 2013 20:07:19 GMT -8
Looks good. Send it to Pleo(for formatting help) and make sure you are ready to say who you targeted day to day.
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Post by paranoia on Feb 27, 2013 0:58:41 GMT -8
Lord, the town is so easily distracted over the most trivial of issues.
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Post by ashtaroth on Feb 27, 2013 3:05:40 GMT -8
Well as a townie, I would have pounded colby by now. I had to check whether or not Colby was on our team with the 'slip' he just made.
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Post by reaper on Feb 27, 2013 10:48:37 GMT -8
tex cat is on to all of you - get your fake PM ready
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Post by ashtaroth on Feb 27, 2013 20:19:36 GMT -8
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Post by paranoia on Feb 27, 2013 20:50:19 GMT -8
I think this game is frustrating for everyone involved on some level.
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Post by ashtaroth on Feb 28, 2013 2:43:12 GMT -8
Mafia often is, but I look forward to seeing what will happen. Right now, the extra conditions we need to fulfill to win seem very hard to do, but I may be wrong as people will accumulate more sins. Ryjae's role seems extremely powerful combined with the 3 docs. And add to that that we can't seem to kill anyone, and it makes for a very hard game. Basically, it seems like we have a 1/7 chance of actually moving people to hell which doesn't bode well for the wincon. I look forward to seeing the explanation for our missing night kills. It seems somewhat unlikely that it is the result of Lust/Docs and that we are just bad at targetting, but given that we know everything, I can't see what else it could be. I don't suppose you'd care to let us know why we can't kill? The setting, however, is complete awesome - as is the idea of the game being made this way. Only issue is there are so many things to remember to do that it becomes hard to actually get around it to. Thus, I have yet to make a bet in purgatory. (The townfolk don't seem to keen on biting either)
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Post by paranoia on Feb 28, 2013 2:48:57 GMT -8
Even if I knew, I wouldn't tell you. It's kind of fun being able to interact with the scum team while dead for a change though. Also the townfolk don't need to bite. For the most part they have sailed straight out of purgatory after a single phase, except for me who sat in there forever.
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Post by scratch on Feb 28, 2013 9:49:37 GMT -8
Apologies for not being around much.
I've added a fake role claim: The Templar to the list. Someone take a look and let me know what you think.
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Post by scratch on Feb 28, 2013 9:50:14 GMT -8
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Post by Guiri on Feb 28, 2013 10:06:25 GMT -8
Check the role type, does it match other manipulators?
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Post by scratch on Feb 28, 2013 10:23:46 GMT -8
AFAICT - it does match up
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Post by Guiri on Feb 28, 2013 10:31:02 GMT -8
It does sound like a useful power to scum... Basically a cloaking device.
I guess you'll only claim results from N4, right?
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