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Post by Pleonast on Aug 30, 2012 11:19:22 GMT -8
Continue here.
Choose which group powers you want to use. Which Cabalist to use which power, and who to target. Remember, you can only use one non-secret power per Night.
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Post by cabal3 on Aug 30, 2012 12:02:34 GMT -8
Shoot. So guiri is a werewolf. Good news: I should be able to commit a NK toNight... who needs dyin? Bad news: I am totally on the chopping block for the lynch toMorrow. You could always kill guiri...we need the Wolves dead in order to win...but then you lose your power, don't you? Why are you on the chopping block Tomorrow? I didn't get back in time to double Ben...maybe Wombat did?
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Post by cabal8 on Aug 30, 2012 12:34:08 GMT -8
Because Ben already intimated that I would be investigated (he said:
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I think that implies investigation.
So I should use a NK toNight to do some damage for the Cabal before passing on. Not sure... use it on guiri?
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Post by cabal3 on Aug 30, 2012 12:58:16 GMT -8
The problem with using it on guiri is that if we kill him, your secret power dies with him...and if you aren't investigated then we lose a bunch of really nice carnage...
Any thoughts on who Ben's teammates might be? An unsuspecting Witch would make a nice target.
And assuming Wombat hasn't already done so, is there any point in one of us doubling Ben Tonight, or should we wait and see what the morning brings?
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 13:26:30 GMT -8
Shoot. So guiri is a werewolf. Good news: I should be able to commit a NK toNight... who needs dyin? Bad news: I am totally on the chopping block for the lynch toMorrow. You could always kill guiri...we need the Wolves dead in order to win...but then you lose your power, don't you? Why are you on the chopping block Tomorrow? I didn't get back in time to double Ben...maybe Wombat did? I did not double Ben. I don't think FSWG should kill guiri. (Good call, by the way, a wolf, high five on that one). We know what he is and his kill is blocked as long as the doubling is in effect. Set him aside for the moment, don't you think?
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 13:30:43 GMT -8
The problem with using it on guiri is that if we kill him, your secret power dies with him...and if you aren't investigated then we lose a bunch of really nice carnage... Any thoughts on who Ben's teammates might be? An unsuspecting Witch would make a nice target. And assuming Wombat hasn't already done so, is there any point in one of us doubling Ben Tonight, or should we wait and see what the morning brings? that depends on how likely it is that you or I will be NK'd. I say the risk is fairly low and we should wait and see what morning brings.
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 13:38:45 GMT -8
Because Ben already intimated that I would be investigated (he said: ) I think that implies investigation. So I should use a NK toNight to do some damage for the Cabal before passing on. Not sure... use it on guiri? It implies investigation *if* he's a witch as he claims.
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 13:52:43 GMT -8
So, these are the tasks for Tonight as I understand them:
- FSWG NKs someone, and since he is using a doubled power he cannot carry out a non-secret Cabal power - The Cabal as a group needs to decide who to subject block and/or who to object block (our Nightly power), and who carries out those blocks OR either suburban or I use the once-per-game redirect available in place of the nightly blocking power.
Is this the way y'all understand it too?
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 14:12:27 GMT -8
Someone explain zombies to me.... is a zombie able to participate in the game again but on the undead side? Do we need to object block Peeker so that he doesn't get zombified?
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Post by cabal8 on Aug 30, 2012 14:32:34 GMT -8
Yeah - just throwing some ideas out there on who to kill:
BillMc - cuz he ain't gonna be lynched no matter how much he lurks, yet he's still dangerous
Red Skeezix - I really think either Wolf or Undead. Non-Town anyway. But others have also voiced suspicion and he could be lynched
SisterCoyote - Generally a threat, but not sure of her alignment
pizza - cuz I think he's Townie as all hell this time.
Merestil - cuz I think he's on the same team as Ben
Polluxo - Not sure why
I kind of doubt the people who come pre-demoralized by this format should be NK'd , and that includes pizza and KidV...
I favor killing Merestil or BillMc. What do you all say?
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 14:53:51 GMT -8
Any thoughts on who Ben's teammates might be? An unsuspecting Witch would make a nice target. Just a wild guess, knowing nothing about his normal play style (have either of you ever played with him before?) but he was kinda snuggling me a bit at the end, there; overly-friendly-townie vibes. Maybe look at players he was trying to distance himself from?
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 15:11:30 GMT -8
Yeah - just throwing some ideas out there on who to kill: BillMc - cuz he ain't gonna be lynched no matter how much he lurks, yet he's still dangerous Red Skeezix - I really think either Wolf or Undead. Non-Town anyway. But others have also voiced suspicion and he could be lynched SisterCoyote - Generally a threat, but not sure of her alignment pizza - cuz I think he's Townie as all hell this time. Merestil - cuz I think he's on the same team as Ben Polluxo - Not sure why I kind of doubt the people who come pre-demoralized by this format should be NK'd , and that includes pizza and KidV... I favor killing Merestil or BillMc. What do you all say? If they are equally dangerous by reputation, but you think Merestil is witch/faction, then I'd go for him over BillMc. BillMc might be Town/nonwitch and therefore not a threat to us.
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Post by cabal3 on Aug 30, 2012 16:38:21 GMT -8
Bill is always a good target whenever he's not on your team...but honestly I'd rather not kill him Tonight. The guy deserves to be allowed to play the game now and then, instead of being a Night 1 target every time.
If you think MHaye might be a Witch, then I say he should be your target. Ben ought to be protected Tonight, which means its likely the other Witches won't be.
I don't think we should use our one-time redirect this early.
It seems that we can subject-block and object-block in the same Night?
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 16:58:20 GMT -8
Yes, that is my understanding, we have a subject-block and an object-block Tonight.
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 18:00:26 GMT -8
Side note - suburban, I don't think peeker mentioned his procedure in the main thread, did he? Just in case someone asks about your comment.
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Post by cabal6 on Aug 30, 2012 18:01:30 GMT -8
sorry, gang. i am so fucking stoned at this point the only advice i can offer is lose one nut for a ton of fucking medications is kind of sounding real good.
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 30, 2012 19:02:58 GMT -8
sorry, gang. i am so fucking stoned at this point the only advice i can offer is lose one nut for a ton of fucking medications is kind of sounding real good. Glad you are back and I'm looking forward to your continued participation with or without heavy pain meds
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 31, 2012 3:12:10 GMT -8
Could Colby be coroner, or is he just making conversation?
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Post by cabal8 on Aug 31, 2012 4:45:51 GMT -8
Hope you're recovering well and quickly, peeks. Sorry to lose you. We should think about blocks - we need to vote to use them without dissent according to the rules page. We could... * subject-block Ben in an attempt to prevent investigation/protection? * object-block Ben in an attempt to get protection provided to him to fail (although that would also cause a kill attempt to fail too, wouldn't it? * Subject-block Colby in an attempt to prevent coroner from gaining info about peeker?
* Object-block peeker to prevent info from getting out?
* Subject/object-block someone else we think has some useful power.
Thoughts? I'll be really busy this morning, so I might not be able to check in much.
I will delegate my vote to agree with whatever Plankton thinks... (no offense, Wombat, I've just played with Plankton before and I don't think I've played with you... ) )
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Post by cabal8 on Aug 31, 2012 4:46:18 GMT -8
That smiley should be a
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 31, 2012 4:46:32 GMT -8
What is the effect of subject-blocking the coroner? Would they not receive results?
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 31, 2012 5:08:30 GMT -8
And thinking more about the zombies - zombies make it harder for town to win and don't affect our win condition, so actually if peeker is zombified, that is good for cabal.
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Post by cabal9 on Aug 31, 2012 5:30:16 GMT -8
I would say we should subject block someone with an investigative role (but not Ben, because that would bounce back to Squid). ATM I do not have a good suggestion for who to subject block, so I will defer to my more experienced teammates on making that selection.
For the object block - should we use it? We could be doing more harm than good, for example, if we blocked a wolf kill inadvertently.
I will be in and out and will check back closer to EON.
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Post by cabal3 on Aug 31, 2012 6:32:44 GMT -8
Side note - suburban, I don't think peeker mentioned his procedure in the main thread, did he? Just in case someone asks about your comment. No he didn't. But he had just come back after a prolonged absence, was posting even less coherently than usual, and his wife felt the need to edit one of his posts...so I think it was pretty clear he needed some taking care of, regardless of the reason. I think I'll be OK on that one. Could Colby be coroner, or is he just making conversation? I don't think so. It would be almost too obvious... What is the effect of subject-blocking the coroner? Would they not receive results? I believe the Coroner ability is a passive power, so I don't think a block would have any effect, since he isn't technically taking an action The 'obvious' choice for a subject-block is Ben. The problem is with this statement, that Squid pointed out earlier: If he's blocked Tonight, then it's likely that somebody will go back to that statement and figure out that someone didn't want Squid investigated and took pains to stop it...and the only someones who were likely to be able to do that are the Cabal. Still, it's probably better than sitting back and letting Ben investigate Squid unimpaired, and remove any doubt as to his identity. As for an object-block...I'm not sure. At this point I think carnage is good for us (as long as we aren't the targets), so I don't want to block somebody's kill. Perhaps we object-block one of us? I do think that Squid should use the doppelganger Wolf kill on MHaye
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 31, 2012 7:04:49 GMT -8
No clear consensus on using the group powers. I'll check back before the end of the Night.
Note, if in doubt about how your powers affect a particular role, read the detailed description of that role in the rules. I think all possibilities are covered.
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