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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 11:26:39 GMT -8
Well looks like Diggit may have futzed with the ranking and therefor messing with the master plan before we iced him. But yay for hitting a hidden role.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 11:53:30 GMT -8
And it goes without saying that I really hope you got your orders in on someone, preferably other than Diggit, Inner. I'm all for taking all of the credit when things going our way, but as soon as things don't start going our way, I will be throwing y'all under the bus for phoning it lickity split.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 12:03:41 GMT -8
That was said in jest btw, well...mostly in jest. Our hand looks to be a bit forced now. I don't see that we have a choice but to smear the hell out of Ichini with manufactured investigation results in the hopes of getting him brigged because if he's smart he will examine Scuba or Chronos.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 12:06:44 GMT -8
If I utilize my power during the Day, when will my target(s) be functionally free of the Brig, and how much of any of the cracking will be included in public color? Same question for utilizing the power at Night. [/color]
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 12, 2009 12:13:48 GMT -8
If I utilize my power during the Day, when will my target(s) be functionally free of the Brig, and how much of any of the cracking will be included in public color? Same question for utilizing the power at Night. [/color][/quote] Tsk, tsk, read your PM. Night-only power. They are freed at the end of the Night, so no chance to use any powers. And color will be vague.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 13:03:32 GMT -8
Ok, everyone just pretend I only asked about the color.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 13:34:29 GMT -8
The longer Inner doesn't provide a result, the more suspicion he's going to get and the less likely people are going to consider believing whatever he says.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 15:55:48 GMT -8
Nipping the Masons in the bud by taking out Chronos may have been better, but as long as we can contain the confirming to Chronos, Scuba, and Ichini, I think we can get one of them brigged or lynched and take out a 2nd by Night by framing them as the 3 scum. The movement of Ichini into the Doctor spot really makes that connection between the three of them convenient to at least attempt. Hal is helping us along in that way nicely as well, but I think we need to set Ichini up as the killer last night to pull it off.
"Facts" to be manipulated:
Chronos didn't come out with the mason claim until after Ichini wound up in the Doctor position. (We need at least one actual fact in there...) Ichini looks like the chief suspect of who killed Diggit. Maybe Diggit's hacker sense was able to pick up on Ichini's evilness, which is why he tried to switch places with him in an attempt to pull him out of the Officers block. Chronos and Scuba attempt to self confirm once their third scum buddy wound up in the Doctor slot.
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Post by mutineer1 on Aug 12, 2009 19:52:45 GMT -8
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. I thought Night was longer and didn't put a request in. Then to top it all off, we had to move from summer housing to semester housing today which means that my computer was all packed up so I didn't see Pleo's reminder pm at lunch so missed mt chance there. And my new apartment doesn't have wifi so it's more of a bitch getting online. Am I still claiming I watched Ichini and saw her interact with Diggit?
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 21:18:24 GMT -8
It is a gambit, but otherwise we risk potentially a block of 3-4 mostly-confirmed Townies which will be a bitch to overcome.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 12, 2009 21:20:21 GMT -8
And I don't necessarily think we lost much by not getting an investigation in. 2 masons are now outed, and a Hacker is dead. There can't be many other hidden Town roles left, I don't think.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 13, 2009 8:28:33 GMT -8
It's been nice playing with you guys...
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 14, 2009 9:44:14 GMT -8
Lovely. Outed by maths and flying solo. *grumble*
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 14, 2009 11:33:30 GMT -8
I had ruled out executing the warrant on Chronos because doing so without town consensus would be suicide for Inner, but now that things are so far off the rails I really hope he gets back in time to just execute it + deliver the smear on Ichini as being seen messing with Diggit last Night. We then kill Cold Phoenix ToNight which would potentially give us (with the only variable being who is lynched Today, probably one of us or Hal as things are currently progressing):
Ichini : Captain Inner : XO ? Cookies : Security ? Hal: Engineer ? Darth: Doctor ? Scuba: Crew Chronos: Brigged
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 14, 2009 11:46:32 GMT -8
Actually, if Inner executes the warrant and smears, I can't see how he won't be lynched toDay, so we'd likely be looking at
Chronos brigged by Inner Ichini smeared by Inner Inner lynched by Town Cold Phoenix killed by us
Ichini: Captain Cookies: XO Hal: Security Darth: Engineer Scuba: Doctor Chronos: Brigged
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 14, 2009 12:00:39 GMT -8
If someone doesn't come back soon, I'm going to start peeing in some shoes.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 14, 2009 14:40:42 GMT -8
But you're doing so well, Cookies!
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 14, 2009 15:05:30 GMT -8
If we manage to get the above plan through, I can demote Hal and maybe we can convince Ichini to put a warrant out on him.
I have reservations about sacrificing Inner...which is what happens when I'm left alone to plot...talking myself in circles...hint hint
If we don't take the gambit, we may be able to get one or two of us brigged instead, and then cash in on my power at a timely moment. I just don't like our chances of being able to keep us all alive at this point, and sacrificing Inner gains us a good bit of control of our own destiny, hopefully.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 14, 2009 17:07:58 GMT -8
I'm about to embark on a 6 hour drive to my Mom's. I'll get online in the wee hours once we arrive tonight. Saturday I'll be able to check in the morning but will be away from a computer for most of the day and the night for County Fair and High School Reunion antics. Sunday I will be able to get online at my whim. Monday will have an early rise and 8 hours of driving home, so I probably won't be on until the evening at the earliest.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 15, 2009 11:46:53 GMT -8
If Chronos promotes Ichini before we FUCKING HAVE A CHANCE TO DO A DAMN THING I'm going to blow a gasket.
Even so, it would hopefully make people dubious of both the Doctor and Engineer results that he produces, so long as he, Chronos, and Scuba are still alive.
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Post by mutineer1 on Aug 15, 2009 18:04:28 GMT -8
01. ColdPhoenix -- Captain 02. Chronos -- Executive Officer 03. Inner Stickler -- Chief of Security 04. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies -- Head of Engineering 05. Ichini Sanshigo -- Ship's Doctor 06. Hal Briston -- Crew-member 07. Darth Sensitive -- Crew-member 08. Scuba_Ben -- Crew-member
An ichini promotion changes the rankings to:
01. ColdPhoenix -- Captain 02. Chronos -- Executive Officer 03. Inner Stickler -- Chief of Security 04. Ichini Sanshigo -- Head of Engineering 05. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies -- Ship's Doctor 06. Hal Briston -- Crew-member 07. Darth Sensitive -- Crew-member 08. Scuba_Ben -- Crew-member
If I execute the warrant after he promotes ichini, we get:
01. ColdPhoenix -- Captain 03. Inner Stickler -- Executive Officer 04. Ichini Sanshigo -- Chief of Security 05. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies -- Head of Engineering 06. Hal Briston -- Ship's Doctor 07. Darth Sensitive -- Crew-member 08. Scuba_Ben -- Crew-member
Brig- 02. Chronos
With the current vote count ColdP gets spaced and gives us:
03. Inner Stickler -- Captain 04. Ichini Sanshigo -- Executive Officer 05. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies -- Chief of Security 06. Hal Briston -- Head of Engineering 07. Darth Sensitive -- Ship's Doctor 08. Scuba_Ben -- Crew-member
Brig- 02. Chronos
If I put out an arrest warrant on any one of the 3 loyals and you enact it before ichini can promote or demote anyone, we win.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 15, 2009 22:44:15 GMT -8
I don't think we should put much faith in Cold necessarily being lynched just because he is currently in the lead. The lynch could go all sorts of ways, including towards you, or Darth if people put much faith in the maths output.
I can't come out in favor of Chronos promoting Ichini, I don't think, because I have been publicly skeptical of both the Masonry and vaguely skeptical of Ichini's alignment. If you or Darth can encourage it, that might take hold. Or it could backfire with people not necessarily wanting to do what lurkers want to do.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 15, 2009 22:46:37 GMT -8
Brainfart. It would have to be Darth who tries to encourage the promotion of Ichini. As soon as you brig Chronos, it is highly likely that you will gather votes and quickly pass Cold for the lead.
I still think we should go with the brig Chronos + smear Ichini plan.
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Post by mutineer1 on Aug 16, 2009 10:35:17 GMT -8
My thought was to wait until just before the end of the Day and hopefully votes will be spread out enough that I could throw one or two that gets someone lynched. Also, I think I messed up my math. We're at 8 players. Brigging Chronos drops us to 7 voters. A mislynch drops us to 6 and the NK drops it to 5 and gives us the majority of votes outside the brig and the win.
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Post by mutineer2 on Aug 16, 2009 11:52:45 GMT -8
That is a lot of assumptions you are making and each second that goes by you lose more and more credibility and there is a chance that the arrest warrant will be taken away.
All I can do to encourage a spread vote is to put votes down on you, Hal, and Darth for lurking, which is risky as hell considering Chronos is now gunning for you.
Just get in there and play the darn game!
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