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Post by Pleonast on Aug 6, 2008 11:08:31 GMT -8
Orders NAF1138 => Koldanar Omi no Kami => MHaye Koldanar => peekercpa Wolves => All-Block Cabal => block Omi no Kami Public Results No deaths. Oredigger77 is Town. ShadowFacts is a Werewolf. CatInASuit is a Detective. fluiddruid is an Alphawolf. Nanook Of the North is a Cabalist. Private Results NAF1138: You fail to kill Koldanar. Better sharpen your fangs. Omi no Kami: You protect MHaye. Koldanar: Your investigation of peekercpa fails. Wolves: You block all actions. Cabal: You block Omi no Kami. Win Conditions 12 players left Town: 16 - 8 = 8 Wolves: 7 - 5 = 2 Undead: 3 - 2 + 0 = 1 (1) Cabal: 5 - 4 = 1 Wolves: 2 vs 10 => no win Undead: 1 vs 11 => no win
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 6, 2008 12:01:06 GMT -8
NAF1138
I think I will take out Koldanar.
Wonder if I will live till morning, I really am not all that sure that Cookies isn't a vig...farily sure, but not that sure.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 7, 2008 6:26:47 GMT -8
Omi no KamiI will protect MHaye during the night.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 7, 2008 11:38:41 GMT -8
MHaye
You have said that deadlines are rigid - that is, Dawn is noon Friday (your time) whether it's posted on time or not.
You've also said that all Night actions are processed at once.
If you are slightly delayed posting Night actions, are they still assumed to have taken place exactly at the deadline?
If the answer is "yes" then there is a small possibility that a player can post while dead - between the time of the deadline and the time you get the Dawn post up. This may not be much of a hassle if there is only a few minutes delay, but should there be a significant gap (as when you were travelling last week) and someone posts content at a time when they should be dead - does it matter? Or are you allowing it because you were late?
Pleonast
Hmm, that's a point I hadn't considered. Actions take place at Dusk/Dawn. I guess the not-realized-they're-dead posting is not a problem, since I don't enforce many post restrictions.
MHaye
Fair enough.
Most of the things I worry about would only be a problem if you issue results before posting up the death scene, I suspect. And that's not your routine iirc.
Pleonast
Heh, you over estimate my color text. It's pretty much results in a very simple prose. I try post as soon as possible, but I can't finalize the results until the clock has finished ticking, lest someone make a last-minute change.
I think the potential for damage is small. Is there some specific scenario you're worried about?
MHaye
The scenrio I was worrying about mostly would only be a problem if you tell Night roles their results before telling them they're dead.
However, there is one remaining area of worry best illustrated by posts around the close of Night 4 / dawn of Day 5.
Koldanar made two posts after the deadline but before you posted up the Nightkills. In 1852, he speculated on Dotchan's role; in 1854 he claimed Seer and gave his results for his first three investigations. You posted the Night results in 1855, nearly 20 minutes after Koldanar's claim, by which time a substantial number of the players would have already read it. (I know I had.)
What would have happened had he been Nightkilled that Night? We would have had information - three players roles - we should not have had. The information about Drain Bead has had a major impact on the game - it led OAOW and cckerberos to (say they) checked her out with their secret handshakes.
Of course, Koldanar was not killed, so the issue never came up. But there would have been a pretty mess if it had.
Pleonast
Ah, this you don't need to worry about. All public results are posted before I send PMs for private results. Plus, a player who's killed gets special instructions. So there's no chance for an honest player to accidentally post information they received when they died.
MHaye
That's a relief, and most potential problems are avoided, but that would not have been the problem here.
Koldanar claimed Seer, and gave out his Night 1, 2 and 3 results, between Dawn on Day 5 and when you gave us the Night 4 death list.
If he had been killed in Night 4 he should never have made those posts, because they were made in Day 5.
The claims affected gameplay in subsequent Days.
That's the sort of incident I still worry about.
Pleonast
I'm willing to tolerate that sort of toeing the line, since Night strategizing is allowed. I'd rather have a little gray area during Dusk/Dawn than enforce a no-talking period.
Thanks for the concerns, though. It's something I'll keep in mind for the next game I run.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 8, 2008 6:10:53 GMT -8
Koldanar Peeker's not sitting right with me. Give me those results, pending death and/or blockage!
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