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Post by Pleonast on Aug 30, 2012 11:15:57 GMT -8
Continue here.
Oh, with three living Witches, you may both protect and investigate. You must choose which Witch does which power, plus their targets.
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Post by witch1 on Aug 30, 2012 11:34:56 GMT -8
Carrying forward my suggestions:
* I stay idle, in case the Wolves attempt to block-kill me. * One of you protects me; this protection DOES cover the block-kill. * The other one investigates. My preferred subjects: ** PizzaGuy ** Giraffe ** KidV
Thoughts?
--Ben
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Post by witch4 on Aug 30, 2012 11:58:51 GMT -8
I'm kicking myself for not causing a Lynch of KidV, who does seem Scummy. OTOH such a last minute action might have just drawn more unwelcome attention to myself.
My recommendation: Septimus Protects Scuba Ben Sister Coyote Investigates KidV
Assuming KidV is Scum and will resume a campaign against me, Investigating him must be high priority. But whoever we Investigate, I think we may want to hold results in reserve in case we need to tell a white lie and say Witches Investigated SisC or Septy and she/he is Town. ;D
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Post by witch4 on Aug 30, 2012 12:02:26 GMT -8
OTOH ... we don't want to waste our Investigation on someone likely to be Lynched (KidV) or Night-Killed (Pizza?) so ...
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Post by witch1 on Aug 30, 2012 12:07:46 GMT -8
That, Septy, would be an interesting use of information - false claiming our investigation. I can see it backfire, depending on what we find, should we ever need to reveal what info we really have.
If you think KidV and PizzaGuy both will not survive Tomorrow (one way or another), can I interest you in an investigation of Giraffe? Or do you have another idea?
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Post by witch6 on Aug 30, 2012 12:09:40 GMT -8
I am behind the plan as currently stated, however would be comfortable investigating Giraffe as well.
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Post by witch4 on Aug 30, 2012 12:19:19 GMT -8
I'm OK with the KidV plan but think we should spend remaining hours pondering Giraffe or other options. (I'm not in a hurry to Inveestigate Pizza.) Big questions are: (1) How likely is KidV to be Lynch favorite toMorrow? (2) How likely is Septimus to be Lynch favorite toMorrow? There seemed to be a lot of anti-KidV sentiment developing towards EOD. (OTOH, that could be an argument to Investigate him, if we think there's a good chance he's Town. In case you've not noticed, I'm a very indecisive person. )
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Post by witch1 on Aug 30, 2012 12:27:30 GMT -8
Concur with posted plan.
Whatever KidV turns up as, we probably want to reveal that info early. If he's Town, he can be trusted.
I don't think you, Septy, may be in that much danger -- but it's worth considering.
At present, I favor investigating Giraffe Tomorrow Night, depending on what happens Tomorrow.
ETA: But if we want to investigate Giraffe first, I'm okay with that too.
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Post by witch6 on Aug 30, 2012 13:31:50 GMT -8
I think KidV is a good choice as long as he doesn't get vigged. If he's telling the truth, and he's Town, there will be several people eating crow (assuming you're believed, Ben, which there's no reason you shouldn't be).
Remember, too, that there is a redirector in play.
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Post by witch1 on Aug 30, 2012 16:24:05 GMT -8
Ooh, thanks for the reminder. That does play with things.
I suggest that when I reveal our result, first I remind everybody of the redirector and second reveal just the faction. We'll save full results for after the redirector is eliminated.
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Post by witch4 on Aug 30, 2012 21:45:34 GMT -8
All we'll learn is faction: " You will learn the side of an investigated player."
Redirection is relatively unlikely; in the rules I see only the Town Magician (one redirection per Night) and Cabalist (one redirection each per game). Don't forget that many roles may not exist at all: there were not Vampires at all in C5.
I think that if our Target investigates as Town we should wait on the reveal. If he comes under no Lynch pressure but SisC or I does, make the white-lie reveal. Even if our Target investigates as Scum we should delay the reveal, especially if we can think of a (smudging?) ploy to trick him into giving hints about his team-mates.
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Post by Pleonast on Aug 31, 2012 6:59:02 GMT -8
Septimus Protects Scuba Ben Sister Coyote Investigates KidV This looks like the consensus, so far.
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Post by witch6 on Aug 31, 2012 7:45:49 GMT -8
I am really hesitant about Town lying to Town, but yes, I can see the wisdom of a white lie. However, the other players may insist on Ben revealing his results immediately to "vouch" for his role, too.
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Post by witch1 on Aug 31, 2012 8:07:50 GMT -8
That's my thought -- people will want me to reveal the first investigation promptly. I think I should do so if pressed, but not volunteer it. Easiest way is for me to be away from the board at Dawn. Which won't be too hard, it being Friday afternoon and I'm going to leave work a bit early.
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Post by witch4 on Aug 31, 2012 8:46:11 GMT -8
I was proposing the "white lie" only if SisC or I is about to be Lynched. Later, we admit that our Investigation was elsewhere ... no harm done.
I don't think they can "force" you to do anything. It is extremely anti-Town to work toward the Lynch of a claimed (but not counter-claimed) Witch. Let them do that if they wish; anyone on the bandwagon is Scum (or Town playing very poorly).
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