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Post by Pleonast on Sept 5, 2012 11:12:40 GMT -8
Lots of choices. Let me know who does what.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 5, 2012 13:35:41 GMT -8
At the moment I am favoring investigating Red Skeezix, and Squiddy killing SisC, and Suburban blocking BillMc.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 5, 2012 13:41:52 GMT -8
Or vice versa on the block and investigation -
Investigate BillMc, block red Skeezix, kill sisc
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Post by cabal8 on Sept 6, 2012 6:23:38 GMT -8
Yeah, I'd rather know what Bill's alignment/role is than block him...
Shouldn't we block Ben, Septimus, or anyone else we think might have investigative power? Why Skeezix? Did I miss something?
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Post by cabal8 on Sept 6, 2012 6:30:04 GMT -8
Kill message sent. Hm - possibly double. Sorry about that Pleonast.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 6:32:45 GMT -8
Ok - I'll investigate BillMc.
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 6:39:13 GMT -8
Well, it's been a busy Night, hasn't it?
It looks like we now have the following Claimants
Askthepizzaguy - Vicar
KidVermicious - Magician
Scuba Ben - Witch
Septimus - Witch
We also have an apparently false claim of Freemason from vindictus, which also brings gnarlycharlie under suspicion.
And of course, we know guiri is a Werewolf, but this is not common knowledge.
We have the following powers available to us
FSG has a kill, from guiri's double
Wombat has a protection/investigation from Ben's double
We all have our one-time redirection
We have our group subject block/object block abilities
So, what to do, what to do?
Pizza is not our top priority, as he is the top priority for the Undead. We should let them try to handle him for now.
Ben and Septimus are priorities for us, as they must die in order for us to win, and there is zero chance that they will be lynched.
KidV is a good target for being doubled, as his redirection power could be useful. But there's no reason to do that Tonight, as his is not a day power.
Tomorrow seems to be "lynch vindictus Day", unless he winds up dead Tonight. If he dies tonight, suspicion will fall on gnarlycharlie since he was 'cleared' by vindictus...but I don't know that there's any real evidence against him.
Bear in mind that we also get faction reveals on Inner Stickler, Giraffe, and Merestil Haye at Dawn; who knows how they might tip the scales...but of course that's irrelevant to our actions Tonight...
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 6:47:53 GMT -8
So at the moment, we're going with
Squid kills SisC
Wombat investigates Bill
Suburban blocks...someone
is that correct?
We should almost definitely try to subject-block the Witch's investigator, which at this point means choosing between Ben and Septimus, and hoping we get lucky. It might also be worthwhile to object-block one of us, if we think any of us might be targets for investigation and/or kills
I think it might be better for Wombat to object-block Squid. I have a feeling he's going to be a target tonight. And I could object-block Ben again.
Thoughts?
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 7:05:21 GMT -8
Ben will be subject-blocked because I'm doubling him, so Septimus would be the one to use a subject-block on.
If someone tries to kill Squiddy, Guiri will die instead; we don't want to block that; same for me - if someone tries to kill me, Ben will die.
I think the danger might be if someone tries to kill Guiri - Squiddy would die. Guiri is always a popular target for NKs. Let's say someone takes a shot at Guiri - what are the chances it would go through with all of the redirects and blocks in play?
Now if we think Suburban is in danger at all, I can use the object block on him instead of investigating BillMc.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 7:12:43 GMT -8
But - assuming 4 witches - I would think they would use the two hidden ones for their investigation and protection, not Ben and Septimus.
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 7:26:32 GMT -8
I forgot about the blocking side-effect of our doubling power. So you're right that there is no reason at all to subject-block Ben, and the two of you are protected against any attacks directed against you
I don't think I'm in any particular danger, so I don't think we need to 'waste' an object-block on me.
So...who should I block?
Pizza? That would seem counter-productive as it would advance the Undead cause...
KidV? That would ensure he doesn't redirect one of our actions...
vindictus? He appears to be either Undead or Wolf; even if he's killed his action (if any) ought to go through, so perhaps we shouldn't let it...
Skeezix? I get the feeling he's not Vanilla...
Right now, I'm leaning towards Red Skeezix or vindictus.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 7:28:47 GMT -8
You know what... there's so much killing going on... Wolf kill, possibly a Vig still out there, Vampire... maybe I do need to object-block Suburban and cancel the BillMc investigation.
Then I'll feel better that we will all 3 at least survive the Night. Opinions? I've already sent the PM to investigate Bill but I'll change it if the consensus is that object-blocking Suburban is a better idea.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 7:32:54 GMT -8
I posted before I read your reply. Ok, I'll keep my BillMc investigation.
I have the same feeling about Red Skeezix. Something's up with him; I get an investigative vibe from him. I agree leave ATPG alone. Who would Vindictus be likely to kill? If we want that target dead, then let him take his shot.
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 8:15:54 GMT -8
I posted before I read your reply. Ok, I'll keep my BillMc investigation. I have the same feeling about Red Skeezix. Something's up with him; I get an investigative vibe from him. I agree leave ATPG alone. Who would Vindictus be likely to kill? If we want that target dead, then let him take his shot. vindictus was so all over the place on Day 2 that it's tough to say who he might target. I did notice that I was his prime suspect on most of Day 1 though, so maybe you should object-block me...I just don't know... Or, I could just subject-block him, which would afford me the same protection. As I see it, we seem to be down to one of the follwing for Tonight: Squid kills SisC Wombat investigates Bill Suburban subject-blocks Red Skeezix Squid kills SisC Wombat object-blocks Suburban Suburban subject-blocks Red Skeezix Squid kills SisC Wombat investigates Bill Suburban subject-blocks vindictus I like the first option if we think I'm safe for the Night, and the last if we think I'm a likely target. The middle option I think offers maximum disruption, but at the cost of a private investigation. |
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 6, 2012 8:37:31 GMT -8
I'll check back later to see what your consensus is. Be sure to make it obvious.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 8:47:16 GMT -8
Suburban, should you use your redirect Tonight instead of a block? Redirect Vindictus to, say, Septimus?
(Meaning that if Vindictus shoots, doesn't matter who he's aiming at, he'll kill Septimus, correct?). Septimus might be protected, but there's a lot of claimed Town roles, now... it might get through.
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 9:10:55 GMT -8
That's a thought...if we're certain that vindictus is in fact going to try to kill someone.
It's entirely possible that he did indeed simply misspeak, and that he is a Freemason. In that case, a redirect would be somewhat of a waste.
I think I'd rather block than redirect him. But I'm still not sure if we should do anything to him at all.
I'd welcome an opinion from at least one of our other two teammates...guys? are you there?
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 9:18:49 GMT -8
vindictus posted
So he's investigated gnarlycharlie and Polluxo. We have claims from Pizza, KidV, Scuba Ben, and septimus. So how does he arrive at the conclusion that the remaining Freemasons must be either babale, dead, or nonexistent?
What about Bill, Squid, guiri, Skeezix, SisC, Wombat, and me? He seems to be discounting all of us as possible Freemasons, isn't he?
Or am I missing something yet again?
I figure I'll ask this question in the game thread after Dawn, if it's not moot by then.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 9:32:15 GMT -8
I figured he's just saying he investigated the inactives because they are unlikely to counterclaim if they actually are freemasons.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 9:34:19 GMT -8
except for Polluxo - maybe he felt safe saying he investigated Polluxo because he knows Polluxo isn't a freemason because he's investigated him or they are on the same team? Or just took a chance.
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 9:36:12 GMT -8
peeker posted in the game thread - hey, peeker, get yo ass in here and weigh in  |
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 9:41:42 GMT -8
Ok, I get what vindictus is saying now. He didn't receive a handshake from anyone, which means none of the other Freemasons tried to handshake with him. So either there aren't any to make the attempt, or they are all inactive.
Assuming of course that he's on the level.
I guess we'll find out part of the answer with the Dawn reveals.
At this point, I think that we should go with
Squid kills SisC (using guiri's power)
Wombat investigates Bill (using Ben's power)
Suburban subject-blocks Red Skeezix
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Post by cabal9 on Sept 6, 2012 10:19:12 GMT -8
Ok, I get what vindictus is saying now. He didn't receive a handshake from anyone, which means none of the other Freemasons tried to handshake with him. So either there aren't any to make the attempt, or they are all inactive. Assuming of course that he's on the level. I guess we'll find out part of the answer with the Dawn reveals. At this point, I think that we should go with Squid kills SisC (using guiri's power) Wombat investigates Bill (using Ben's power) Suburban subject-blocks Red SkeezixI concur with this. |
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Post by cabal3 on Sept 6, 2012 10:49:00 GMT -8
OK, I think we're a quorum of two. The rules say we must "choose without dissent", so it looks like we're OK as long as nobody posts an objection in the next 11 minutes.
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 6, 2012 12:45:53 GMT -8
Squid kills SisC (using guiri's power) Wombat investigates Bill (using Ben's power) Suburban subject-blocks Red Skeezix Got it. |
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