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Post by witch1 on Sept 6, 2012 11:02:29 GMT -8
Thrice the brinded cat hath mewed
Thrice and once the hedge-pig whined.
Once the game's Day Three thread starts, we talk here.
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Post by witch1 on Sept 6, 2012 13:28:15 GMT -8
"SisterCoyote is dead. Inner Stickler, Giraffe and Merestil Haye were all Town."
Aw bugger. We lost the non-outed Witch. But on the other hand, only one kill went through.
Probably our protection worked, and Colby was really the Vig.
Sis, what's the result?
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Post by witch6 on Sept 6, 2012 14:21:29 GMT -8
Guiri is cabal.
While we do need him dead, we need to be careful not to let the Wolves or Undead get out of balance, either. Particularly the undead, who can win if none of them are officially "alive."
It's really weird to still be able to talk and strategize while I'm here.
I haven't been in the game thread, yet, but if you haven't "outed" me as the third witch, don't.
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Post by witch6 on Sept 6, 2012 14:25:44 GMT -8
I think leaving the question of who the third witch up in the air until such time as a reveal is needed will be best for the two of you -- if the wolves (assuming it was a wolf and not a vig/vamp who killed me) are shooting into the unconfirmed pool, looking for the third witch, that works out better for you two.
However, what you'll have to take into account is that Town will be expecting an investigative result if all three Witches are still alive. And I can't be replaced until toMorrow at the earliest.
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Post by witch6 on Sept 6, 2012 14:33:03 GMT -8
And although if he is a magician as he's claimed KidV is a good candidate for "recruitment" he's also got a limited shelf-life, I expect.
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Post by witch6 on Sept 6, 2012 14:33:41 GMT -8
Although -- wouldn't it just be ironic if he redirected onto me and was last night's actual target?
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Post by witch1 on Sept 6, 2012 18:57:48 GMT -8
I agree with you fully, Sis C. Up to and including the irony.
I haven't been in the game thread yet other than to see the result. That there was one kill AND NO ZOMBIE means any or all of:
* Colby was a Vig/Vampire
* One of the Dead Townsfolk was the Vig
* We protected correctly
* Kills got subject- or target-blocked
* Kills were targeted or redirected onto the same target and collided
* A missing player is a Vig/Vampire
* Vicar Pizza guessed right
* A missing player is the Necromancer
* The Necromancer got subject- or target-blocked.
So now that I've thought for a minute, we want guiri to Conspire with Town against Wolves and Undead. I'm thinking that we announce in due course that we found a Cabalist, and as long as they work with Town to find and lynch Wolves and Undead, we won't reveal them -- the moment we think they're working against Town, we out them.
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Post by witch4 on Sept 6, 2012 23:58:55 GMT -8
Pleonast, Please Clarify Rule: If the Alpha Wolf uses his once-per-game block kill and fails to kill (because his target is Vampire or Protected by Witches), does he retain the block-kill for future use?
Except for the once-per-game Wolf block-kill, KidV is almost completely unKillable. Wolves will be in no hurry to block-kill KidV, but they may do it eventually. Nevertheless, he seems to be our best Replacement.
We definitely do not want to reveal our Result. Don't even say we found Cabal -- Guiri would likely know exactly who we mean. I would post something like
"Witches think it unwise to reveal results unless it serves a clear purpose. We revealed KidV in part because Town suggested mistrust against us; and even that may have worked out badly: KidV and Pizza both ended up outing their roles after that Reveal. Now that we're semi-confirmed, please trust us to reveal only when appropriate."
We won't even get an Investigation toMorrow Night, and we don't want that to be evident.
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Post by witch1 on Sept 7, 2012 4:56:52 GMT -8
I went ahead and voted for the entire unknown pool. Let's see who puts up what arguments.
Septy, we can take our chances and Investigate this coming Night; let the other sides worry about what we might be doing.
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Post by Pleonast on Sept 7, 2012 7:14:31 GMT -8
Pleonast, Please Clarify Rule: If the Alpha Wolf uses his once-per-game block kill and fails to kill (because his target is Vampire or Protected by Witches), does he retain the block-kill for future use? One shot only, no retries. |
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Post by witch1 on Sept 7, 2012 11:06:57 GMT -8
Thank you Pizza. He's proposed our plan, sort of, without us prompting. Of course I joined in.
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Post by witch6 on Sept 7, 2012 13:09:41 GMT -8
OH, IRONY.
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Post by witch6 on Sept 7, 2012 13:57:36 GMT -8
(Or, more accurately: The irony, it burns. And the goggles, they do nothing!)
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Post by witch6 on Sept 7, 2012 13:58:31 GMT -8
I'm inclined (for the moment) to agree with Pizza; this play is very odd for Bill unless he's low-level Scum protecting someone higher-up.
Which means, given my luck, Bill's probably telling the truth and Pizza and Kid are in cahoots. But that seems a bit less likely.
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Post by witch1 on Sept 9, 2012 6:01:08 GMT -8
SisC, expanding on the discussion in the recruitment thread -- you can attempt to recruit either KidV or BillMc, and we'll find out the truth of that person's claim.
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Post by witch4 on Sept 9, 2012 7:40:12 GMT -8
Vinductus wrote FSwG was the Lynch leader when Vindictus Unvoted based on "septimus ... message". What message? My earlier unVotes moved FSWG toward the lead! Should I object? FSWG might be the best Lynch candidate of all. For all I know, Scum Vindy was bussing teammate Squiddy, and then got scared  |
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Post by witch6 on Sept 9, 2012 11:41:34 GMT -8
Vindictus is pretty balls-out to be backpedaling, in my experience with him, but yeah, that looks questionable.
Also, I am intrigued by burby's possibly meaningless exclusion of Undead in his list of things he would not claim.
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Post by witch6 on Sept 9, 2012 15:48:38 GMT -8
Dammit, where's my :smack: smiley?
Complete reading comprehension fail on my part with Burby.
<emily litella>Nevermind.</el>
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Post by witch6 on Sept 10, 2012 14:04:32 GMT -8
Interesting "townie" play by Guiri, suggesting the two of you get to decide whether or not to fillibuster. Only...aren't you both already voting FOR it?
Not that I think skimming is a scum tell, because I don't, but.
Also: our recruitment power can serve as a partial investigation, though all it will prove is whether or not our target is recruitable (and if so, that they are Town, obvs.) Something to keep in mind when we're planning toNight.
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Post by witch1 on Sept 10, 2012 18:03:40 GMT -8
Oh -- I think I forgot to include the word VOTE.
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Post by witch1 on Sept 11, 2012 10:17:30 GMT -8
Looks like BillMc is going to hang. Nobody's changing their votes, Bill hasn't come back to defend himself. No reason to prolong the Day.
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Post by witch4 on Sept 11, 2012 10:33:58 GMT -8
I guess you're right. Don't understand Bill, but guess his suicide is from some RL anger unrelated to game and not any game mechanic.
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Post by witch4 on Sept 11, 2012 11:05:50 GMT -8
BTW, by never expressing suspicion against Guiri we may be signalling that we've cleared him via Investigation. But maybe that's good ?   Better for the Night Killers to kill Cabal than Town. If we do think it wise to keep Guiri around, I think one of us better smudge him a little ... the coziness may be too obvious for sharp Wolves. |
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Post by witch1 on Sept 11, 2012 11:08:16 GMT -8
What occurred to me a few minutes ago, Septy, is that by not revealing our investigation keeps people guessing if they successfully blocked our target, or what might have happened.
And I'd rather sharp Wolves tore apart guiri looking for Townsfolk than tear apart actual Townsfolk.
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Post by witch1 on Sept 11, 2012 11:34:00 GMT -8
Note to self for N3 thread: Red Skeezix is a good investigation target, if we opt to investigate and not protect. If we protect, the choices are us two and KidV (aiming to attempt recruitment Tomorrow).
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Better for the Night Killers to kill Cabal than Town.